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Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:10 pm
by sapientCrow
The one thing I found last night is that you can run into these before you have access to the weapon/staff or spell. Unless you know.

I ran fast to the Crystal Mines to get the rope and sabre. After that the elementals seemed to be triggered in the River. I had not done the Cemetery or gotten to the Forgotten Dungeon and had mainly focused my mage on fire and air. Luckily their AI is horrible but the hall of needles without the proper equipment would be painful.

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:55 am
by eLPuSHeR
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To damage them you either need the dispell spell (already discussed) or ethereal dagger. Found somewhere in cemetary.

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:59 am
by PSY
I was just runnig around in the Bog when these things showed up.
I've never seen them before - and I'm 100% sure I cleared the bog before. All I encountered were frogs and bees 8-)
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Good thing I had dispell ready Oo

PSY

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:18 am
by Dematto
I do kinda wonder when they're queued to show up.
After your second essence?
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After reaching the Hamlet?
I was frantically chased out of the House of Needles when I unleashed the first one. Then I went back to the Forgotten River to do some thinking and plot my next move. And got chased out of there by another one. Had to rush back to Desarune and explore the entirety of it a second time to find the note I missed that would allow me to access the archives so I can find the cemetery notes, so I can go there and get the weapon to kill these bloody things.
Yeah, I know there's some kinda Dispel staff. Haven't figured that out yet. Not too worried about it. Providing there are none of these things in the archives or cemetery.

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:55 am
by Hyman Hardy
I thought this element is one of the worst designs in the game.
We do have information from philosophy stone, it's said elements oppose one another, apparently not this one.
No doubt it’s aeriform and immaterial, seriously, does it have to be like this?!
Not to speak of casting the spell, another PITA.
The other thing like fireball (spell or mechanism), high chance causing any kind of random injury to the body,
and decent fire resistance won’t change a thing at all.
Can’t get it why a fireball could inflict head, hand, body, leg, and feet injury.
Because of what, pyrotic, if so they make this so cheap.
From what I’ve seen, the only injury we could inflict is stun.
Any monster could simply injure us with melee attack, but we can’t do to them.
That will be so much fun if it takes effect on them too.
Please do correct me if I’m wrong. In a nutshell LOG2 is a great game.
Countless joy follows endless pain.

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:33 am
by Isaac
Dr.Disaster wrote:
Vice Dellos wrote:why cant we at least move through them for damage like a poison cloud or something
This is actually a valid point because this monster is made up of Air. It should be possible to walk thru them including some non-poison damage taken, similar to those really really cute rat swarms that crawl up your legs.
But can you walk through a tornado?... even a small one? :twisted:

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:16 am
by MasterworkStone
Saice wrote:Looking at your party it looks like you have no casters and neither of the only two melee weapons in the game that can hurt this guy.

So yeah you might just want to run away from this one.
Two? I thought the dagger was the only one, what's the second weapon?

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:47 am
by any6
This creature triggered me to look up a guide for the first time in this game. I just had to know whether to avoid them entirely or whether there'd be a way to handle them eventually. The save crystal in forgotted river was swarmed with them on my save making that area mostly unexplorable. I kept getting boxed in narrow corridors.

That's not a good thing, because I really wanted to complete this game without guides.

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:20 pm
by Dr.Disaster
Isaac wrote:
Dr.Disaster wrote:
Vice Dellos wrote:why cant we at least move through them for damage like a poison cloud or something
This is actually a valid point because this monster is made up of Air. It should be possible to walk thru them including some non-poison damage taken, similar to those really really cute rat swarms that crawl up your legs.
But can you walk through a tornado?... even a small one? :twisted:
I can at least walk in. In what condition i get out is a whole different story. :mrgreen:

Re: God I'm hating this game right now...

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:05 am
by Vice Dellos
Dr.Disaster wrote:
Isaac wrote: But can you walk through a tornado?... even a small one? :twisted:
I can at least walk in. In what condition i get out is a whole different story. :mrgreen:
this exaclty XD now that woiuld be an interesting monster when you walk into it it flings you in a random direction XD and it would be terrifying in places you havent fully explored/cleared yet